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Autumn1333
Member
Thu, 19 Oct 2017 12:08:57 PM  (Last updated: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 05:46:12 PM)

industry relations refuses to reinstate you....what is my next step? Thank you

KL Siew
Administrator
Thu, 19 Oct 2017 02:34:24 PM

Sorry, I really run out of suggestions to give you.

Autumn1333
Member
Thu, 19 Oct 2017 02:53:46 PM

no suggestions....? of course you do.....the next steps please, and thank you 

KL Siew
Administrator
Thu, 19 Oct 2017 03:03:57 PM

You flatter me. in our many previous posts, I have suggested that you approach the Labour Department, the Industrial Relations Department, consulting a lawyer, consult your US Embassy, which you have done all that, with not much success. What else can I suggest?

I hope some other readers can give some assistance to Autumn1333.

Autumn1333
Member
Thu, 19 Oct 2017 03:11:38 PM

Yes, thank you so very much, it is appreciated......I just need to know the steps, as I am a foreigner and not a Lawyer I am unsure if I am even contacting the correct agencies.....I am positive this issue will be going to court....just need to know the steps and contacts to make....Thank you 

Autumn1333
Member
Thu, 19 Oct 2017 09:29:49 PM

So again the process....as I know there is a process can you please explain, thank you 

mdkamil
Contributor
Fri, 20 Oct 2017 02:44:35 PM
Originally posted by Autumn1333 on Mon, 23 Oct 2017 05:46:12 PM

industry relations refuses to reinstate you....what is my next step? Thank you

The Industrial Relations Department shall refuse to file a claim for reinstatement only if the claim is submitted over 60 days from the date of dismissal. If it is within the 60 days period, the Industrial Relations Department does not have the authority to refuse.

Which Industrial Relations Department did you go to?

What is the reason for refusing your claim for reinstatement?

If you have done all those filing at the Industrial Relations Department accordingly, and they refuse to accept, you may either -

1. Raise a complaint to the Industrial Relations Department HQ, or

2. Engage a lawyer to file a case against your employer through civil law

Autumn1333
Member
Fri, 20 Oct 2017 02:54:00 PM

They have refused my case for weeks it took over 3 weeks for them to accept it.   I cannot find any lawyers to hire.  Can I hire a lawyer from my own country?  The lawyer I hired here was sketchy and refused to sign papers or set a fee......it was like he was getting information from me to give to my employer.   Am I incorrect?  Do lawyers here work for free? 

Autumn1333
Member
Fri, 20 Oct 2017 02:56:26 PM

I also had my driver attend all meeting I went to, he acted as my friend.....do drivers in Malaysia have a better command of the English language than Lawyers or those who work in government offices? My driver was given to me by a school employee 

mdkamil
Contributor
Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:33:31 PM
Originally posted by Autumn1333 on Fri, 20 Oct 2017 02:54:00 PM

They have refused my case for weeks it took over 3 weeks for them to accept it.   I cannot find any lawyers to hire.  Can I hire a lawyer from my own country?  The lawyer I hired here was sketchy and refused to sign papers or set a fee......it was like he was getting information from me to give to my employer.   Am I incorrect?  Do lawyers here work for free? 

If I understand you correctly, now your claim for reinstatement has been filed at the Industrial Relations Department (you have not answered me which IR Department is that). So, if it has been filed you have to wait for them to call you and your employer for a conciliation proceeding.

Claim for reinstatement under Section 20 of the Industrial Relations Act cannot be represented by a lawyer.

Section 20 (7) of the said Act reads, Save as provided in subsection (6), a workman or employer shall not be represented by an advocate, adviser, consultant or by any other person whatsoever.

Autumn1333
Member
Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:39:54 PM

my reinstatement has been denied, what do I do now.  They have refused to file anything for me, I have been at the office over 6 times 

mdkamil
Contributor
Fri, 20 Oct 2017 05:51:56 PM
Originally posted by Autumn1333 on Fri, 20 Oct 2017 03:39:54 PM

my reinstatement has been denied, what do I do now.  They have refused to file anything for me, I have been at the office over 6 times 

Go and lodge a complaint to Department Of Industrial Relations Malaysia, Level 9, Block D4, Complex D, 62530 Putrajaya.

Autumn1333
Member
Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:00:13 PM

I have been in contact with them both through email and phone.....its all very confusing.....as I lack funds and transportation, must I physically go to the office?  

mdkamil
Contributor
Sat, 21 Oct 2017 10:19:08 AM
Originally posted by Autumn1333 on Fri, 20 Oct 2017 07:00:13 PM

I have been in contact with them both through email and phone.....its all very confusing.....as I lack funds and transportation, must I physically go to the office?  

Yes

Autumn1333
Member
Sat, 21 Oct 2017 10:54:34 AM

I can lodge a complaint about being unfairly treated by industrial office and it must be in person....why are they calling me and emailing? 

mdkamil
Contributor
Sat, 21 Oct 2017 11:08:11 AM
Originally posted by Autumn1333 on Sat, 21 Oct 2017 10:54:34 AM

I can lodge a complaint about being unfairly treated by industrial office and it must be in person....why are they calling me and emailing? 

I don't know why... you should as them

Autumn1333
Member
Sat, 21 Oct 2017 11:23:38 AM

It seems awful sketchy to me 

Autumn1333
Member
Mon, 23 Oct 2017 05:26:17 PM

So they have called again claiming to be the  Ministry of Education to find the name of my employer....? Im so confused....they said to contact Immigration....?  Have I been given a false visa, it passed when I arrived here in Malaysia....Im so confused 

http://www.imi.gov.my/index.php/en/contact-us/address-and-locations.html

Autumn1333
Member
Mon, 23 Oct 2017 05:46:12 PM

So they have called again asking questions claiming to be from the MOE and told me to contact the Immigration department for information.....sorry but what is this about ???

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